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. a farewell for hillary clinton. i'm fighting a fiscal cough, so pardon that. if it's always darkest. it's clear the white house-re house-republican leaders, both sides appear to be very far apart, saluting kennedy center honorees from dustin hoffman to led zeppelin and hitting the golf links with former president bill clinton. the guy with whom he will have to make a deal to end the standoff on the fiscal cliff house speaker john boehner requested time on fox news to publicly declare the president's opening bid a nonstarter. >> i was flabbergasted. we're nowhere. >> treasury secretary tim geithner did the full ginsberg with taped appearances on all five shows. nothing will happen until budget tax rates and the ball is now in their court. >> the only thing that stands in the way of a deal right now is if a group of republican members decide there have been a block because they can't afford the wealthiest 2% of americans. >> how much is theater and how much are the two sides locked into positions that remain far apart? the president's plan called for higher tax rates on the wealthiest ame
involved in that. >>> syria on the bring. secretary of state hillary clinton holds emergency talks with russia as u.s. officials confirm reports that the syrian military is prepared to launch chemical weapons against its own people. >> we've made it very clear what our position is with respect to chemical weapons and i think we will discuss that and many other aspects. >> the whole world is watching. the whole world is watching very closely. and the president of the united states has made very clear that there will be consequences. >> plus, sharp criticism from afghan president karzai. the exclusive nbc interview. why he says the u.s. is partly to blame for the growing instability in his country. >>> and the duchess of cambridge leaves the hospital after being treated for acute morning sickness. her royal father-in-law couldn't be happier. >> i'm not a radio station? >> grandfather, that's splendid. that's great she's getting better. >> good day, i'm chris cillizza in for andrea mitchell live in washington. behind the bluster and the rhetoric, what happens going on behind the scene
is that look, what's wrong with us going back to quite frankly the rate under bill clinton? you remember the clinton years? the largest economic expansion in our history? everyone's boat rising, everyone paying their fair share, deficit reduction, the middle class growing. the problem with what republicans want to do right now, wolf, is they want to lock in this tax rate that you have to sort of address the tax rate. we cannot have a tax rate locked in where they starve the government so that the middle class has to sort of pay more of the share for the burden of government, and you know what, we end up cutting away those programs, those things that help grow opportunity for the middle class. the number one problem with our country right now is sort of the shrinking and burden on the middle class. if we want to sort of expand the middle class and grow the middle class, the last thing we can do is sort of put more of that burden on them as opposed to asking the wealthy people to pay fair fair share, like what they paid in the clinton administration. >> okay, cornel, let me say this. >> ma
in syria now and very, very tough talk from the secretary of state, hillary clinton about potential for united states intervention amid reports that the syrian military has yet, again, moved the chemical weapons in recent days. now, secretary of state, hillary clinton says the united states will take action if they release those chemical weapons on their people. >> this is a red line for the united states, we have made that clear. there is in doubt there is a line between even the horrors they have already inflicted and moving to what would be an internationally con telled step of utilizing their chemical weapons. >>shepard: syria could have several hundred ballistic missiles in their arsenal, capable of carrying chemical warheads. the united nations is pulling all of their "nonessential international staff" from syria as fighting intensifies in damascus. this is amateur video that reportedly shows violent airstrikes in a suburb but fox news cannot confirm the. >> -- confirm the the authencity. hillary clinton was not clear about what the red line would be? >>reporter: that is right
." >> not reaching out aggressively enough like bill clinton, lbj, ronald reagan did. and also it was critical the first four years about him not reaching out enough to the business community. he didn't understand the business community, according to ceos who supported him for four years. but steve rattner, he's made a pretty dramatic shift since the election, and certainly i salute him for doing this, he actually is very engaged with the business community. and i'm not hearing the sort of things from top ceos and business leaders today that i heard the first four years. maybe -- maybe he's leaning in here and trying to rebuild a relationship with some of these people who supported him in '08. >> and i think it goes both ways. i think the business community views this deficit thing as the biggest problem that we can solve that we need to solve. there's something called a campaign to fix the debt, which i'm on the steering committee, 120 leading ceos from everything from general electric to jpmorgan on down. really committed to doing something and accepting the idea that revenues have to go up,
people, it would clearly have large consequences for him. bill: secretary of state hillary clinton called an emergency meeting with the pentagon. >> the pentagon has contingency plans for everything including the chemical attack. it's believed according to a u.s. source that syria has put this sarin fast into cannisters that could be dropped from planes. these cannisters are designed to fracture so the devastating nerve gas could escape. but it's not known whether syria intends to use those chemical weapons. we think we have it in aerosol form. the u.s. is making contingency plans in case bashar al-asaad leaves the country suddenly and flees somewhere for asylum which would leave a vacuum there. several countries in that region are trying to find a place for assad to go. secretary of state hillary clinton has a just-added meeting today in dublin, ireland. here you see her earlier today. she and the russian minister decided to meet with the envoy to syria. across barbra himybill: russia s discussion in moscow. earlier in a week there was a report it was pulling support away from damascus.
clinton's concern as nbc reports that syria is loading its bombs with chemical weapons. welcome to you both. this is pretty serious, isn't it, nick? you've just been in syria. is it actually news, in the sense of this is the first we heard of this? or are the pentagon briefing, this is a reality? >> have have been reports already, that syria has weaponized its nerve gas already into scud missiles, into artillery and into bombs. these have been going on, in fact, i noticed cnn two days ago had reported something similar. there seems to be more reports that chemicals for nerve gas are being united. there team seems to be more reports of them mixing. that's pretty alarmling. >> i remember kvr co-ing back in britain, the iraq war buildup. and we had almost exactly the same pattern. bad guy has chemical weapons about to use them on his people. we have to do something. turned out to be a lot of twadle. how do we know this intelligence is true? >> i suppose we don't know. there's a lot of reporting, true or false. i don't know as much as nick does on this tropic. there's a lot of reporting, t
. if we want a deal you will not doing by taking a wide sprect rum approach. president clinton was clear when he spoke to the republicans. he pointed out that the biggest driver of the united states debt is medicare. he understands that we have to face up to the medicare problem. we need a solution. >> the conference that rick was referring tompt he said folks, i won and i get to make the decision and he grew the budget by 800 billion every year. one-time stimulus has happened every year of the presidency and the president through tim geithener is making a proposal and raising taxes. >> it is absurd what is in the propose and the president is proposing. we hear the president saying that tax hikes on the upper brackets will solve all of the problems and it pay for government spending for a week and a half . the president said he would stop the seas from rising. he might want to stop the oceans of red ink that are rising. listen, they make this point. federal taxpayers ponying up to cover up the short fall of social security. white house said that is happening . lbj in the '60s got the gov
come as hillary clinton made repeated the united states position that it will not tolerate the use of chemical weapons. >> we have made our views very clear. this is a red line for the united states. >> so is the united states about to get involved in syria's 20-month-old conflict? out front tonight, bob baer, peter brooks. nice to have both of you with us. bob, what do you think when does the united states get involved? >> i think the fact they're mixing it is highly alarming, of course. if they start deploying this, if they start putting it on artillery shells, if it looks like they're going to really fire this stuff, you know, i don't see any choice but we're going to have to go in. the west is completely -- what i'd also like to say is, that with the alloites, the regime that runs syria, would they use it? absolutely. if their back is against the wall and they think they're going to go down, they will use any of these binary gases that would stop the revolt, what they would -- they are that desperate. i don't know that they're at that point, but if they do, we really have to th
president bill clinton. ben's father vinod is an old friend of the clintons'. over the years, he's donated thousands of dollars to theirs and other democratic campaigns. and over time the families became close friends. >> ben, a beautiful man with a beautiful life. some people live four times as long and don't do as much good or bring as much joy. >> why did you decide to call me? >> i called you in desperation. i wanted to know what to do. i just knew that somebody needed to do something, but that's why i called you. i thought you -- a, i knew you'd care about it. and, b, i thought you'd know something about it. >> i could tell in your voice that you were pretty broken up. what kind of kid was he? >> a light shined out of him. that's all i can tell you. he grew up, he was big, strong, handsome, smart and wanted to make something of his life. he was industrious, but he was normal and liked to have a good time. i promise you that night he had no idea that he was turning out the lights. none. and if it's true of him, it's got to be true of a lot of other people. >> as soon as people hear tha
from 35% all the way up to the clinton rate of 39.6%, or would he compromise on something lower, like 37%? is that negotiable. >> we will not extend an extension of the tax rates for the top 2%, we think they should go back and need to go back to clinton levels and let me explain why. >> chris: i just -- to answer my question, specifically, you are saying nonnegotiable, 39.6%. >> we think that is the way to do it. if you don't do that, it costs a trillion dollars, roughly a trillion dollars over ten years. >> chris: not if you went to 37%. >> again, but you are -- >> that is one of the ideas, out there, sir, i'm not making it up. >> that is out there, and again we are proposing to let the rates go back to clinton levels and that was a time of remarkably good economic growth, in the country. strong private investment, and strong job growth, strong broad-based growth in incomes, and, it was a good time for the american economy and in addition we propose to limit deductions for the top 2% of americans as well and are willing to work with republicans on tax reform to create simple and a m
. this is largely symbolic. will have no effect on sovereignty or borders. hillary clinton met with president abbas and tried to assure him not to go ahead with the move. let's listen to what she told reporters yesterday. sfm know matter what happens it will not change what i support. the only way to get a lasting solution is to commence direct negotiations and we need an environment conducive to that. we have urged both parties to refrain from actions that might in any way make a return to meaningful negotiations -- >> now, brooke, president abbas promised to return to negotiations after the vote. but with israel so opposed to the move it doesn't seem likely. prime minister benjamin netanyahu slammed the resolution calling it one-sided saying it doesn't take into account israel's security interests and it pushes the peace process back. israel is threatening to withhold a hundred million dollars a month in tax revenues from the palestinians, further restrict movement of plib officials and there is about 500 million in u.s. economic and security aid at stake. congress withheld aid last year when the
of state, hillary clinton says this bid if recognition is misguided and urge talks with israel for a two-state solution. after years of failed negotiations, and no two-state solution the palestinian president is ready for a rare symbolic victory. across the west bank and gaza palestinians are gathering in anticipation of the vote in their favor. u.n. recognition is mostly symbolic it could allow the palestinians to bring war crimes accusations against israel before the international criminal court. this comes amid growing tenses following the eight day conflict teen israel and the militant group that runs part of the palestinian territory, hamas. the palestinians are saying this is long overdue. >>jonathan: morale, legally, and politically, long overdue in the eyes of palestinians. they say as you look at the general assembly at the diplomats gather, this is a necessary on the road to that well warn phrase "the two state solution." they claim this will strengthen the hand of the moderates among the palestinians. they mean president abbas' party in the face of the militant hamas who made
obama believes in the clinton tax cuts, let them go back into affect for the entire country and see if the country believes they are good for america. >> the president is campaign acting like he received a anytime percent man date when he only received half. what impact is this having on the psyche of the gop. >> it is affecting the psyche of the president. he's act being like he did win a huge victory . he did win a substitute victory and what happened to the republicans is, they are fearful of all of these taxes going up they are trying to a bargain in good faith to give away something and then say if you will give us something and make us look good. don't humiliate us. the democrats are humiliating the republican party in making that offer . i think their own dignity and principles and beliefs, what republicans ought to say is, we think that extending the tax cuts pay roll and bush tax cuts is good for economy and america and consistent with our principles and blives and you are not going to put a gun to our head and testimony us to give up all of these things and we'll vote thes
's calculation politically. if you look at the reagan's presidency and clinton's, the one reason they had successful terms, they had growth. clinton 4% growth. more than 4% and reagan chose to that. that buoyed public sentiment that helped their approval ratings throughout enormous revenues that they could use. if obama gets a recession in the second term after the slow growth of the first term, he's dead in the water. he can't afford that. >> yes, but ball there's a whole economic school, we call it keynesian, which says that when the economy is slow and not growing, government has to step in and play the role of the engine of growth, by spending money. this is something that the democrats believe in religiously, and they think that the only way to get the economy growing again is to spend a lot of money from the government. that's where the problem comes in. >> all right. when we come back. as he prepares for a second term. president obama faces the prospect of assembling a whole new national security team. a closer look who could fill the top post and a preview of the controversies to
with the clinton administration when he cut capital-gains taxs. >> he did. david: usually the more you tax something the less you get of it as a result. >> correct. david: don't we want more investment now? >> well, i think there is plenty of investment dollars out there. just they're not going into very productive investments. you know, look, the issue is not whether you want to penalize the investment income. the issue whether you want to penalize wages and we pay substantially higher rates on wage income which is where most americans get their money, than we do investment income. no economic research that shows that having a lower capital gains rates spurs investment that creates jobs and spurs economic growth. there is really no correlation. david: wait, let me stop you. a lot of people see a lot of correlation going back to the days when clinton lowersed the capital gains rate from 28% down to 20%. we saw doubling of revenues. you had that supply side-effect. i know that is dirty word in some quarters. when we lowered rates from 28 to 20% we doubled revenue. >> well there could have b
revert back to the same tax plan that we had when clinton was president. you can't get from here to there unless you raise the upper rates. and that's what the president suggested, it's up to them to come forward with something else. >> the day after boehner loyalist tom cole, republican congressman from oklahoma said that the house should simply take up the bill that the democrats passed in the senate that would raise income taxes only on the top income tax brackets. another senior republican lawmaker who asked not to be identified this time told reuters that the democratic bill could pass in the house of representatives if john boehner would allow such a bill to be brought to the house floor for a vote. here is boehner speaking about the president earlier today. >> members of his own party seem quite comfortable with sending the economy over the fiscal cliff. no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> speaker boehner doesn't want to propose spending cuts, so now he's trying to pressure the white house to
up to the clinton rate of 39.6% or would he compromise on something lower like 37%? is that negotiable wench aren't going to ten the extension of the tax rates for the top two%. we think they should go back and need to go back to the clinton level and let me tell you why i believe that. >> specifically, you are saying nonneglectable, 39.6%. >> we think that's the way to do it and let me explain why. if you don't do that it costs roughly $1 trillion over ten years. >> not if you went to 37%. >> again, you are -- >> that's one of the ideas that's out there, sir. i'm not just making it up. >> eats true there are lots of ideas out there. we are proposing to let the rates go back to clinton levels. that was a time of remarkably good economic growth in the country. strong private investment, strong job growth and strong growth in next. it was a good time for the american economy. makes a lot of sense. but in addition to that we propose to limit deductions for the top two percent of americans as well. we are willing to work with republicans on tax reform to create a more
very careful not to say we have to go up to the clinton-era 39.6%. he hasn't used that number. and so he's -- you know -- >> right now it's 35%. >> right now it's 35%. so if you look in the middle, okay, 37% is a real possibility. but here's the caveat. john boehner, the house speaker, cannot take a rate increase to his caucus unless it is accompanied by some signal of real entitlement cuts. something that they do now and give a down payment on for the future. i don't think you get -- could get rates through unless the president gave a little bit. and if you look at the document from the grand bargain back in july of 2011, the president was willing to give on that. so we'll have to see if they can get back to that. but again, has to be one significant item that they know they'll be able to build upon in the future. an item from both sides. >> neither side's going to be thrilled. but they've got to compromise. >> that's the way life usually works, doesn't it? >> certainly does. thank you. >>> meanwhile, huge announcement today on capitol hill. the conservative senator jim demint of sou
your tax system is. and it's pretty low now. you know compare it to the clinton era rates, which is kind of all we're talking about, right? going back to the clinton era rate of 39% -- >> is it about fairness? or is it about lessening the deficit? because it doesn't really do a whole lot for the debt or deficit over ten years. >> well, it's about fairness, but it's also about what are the better options? given that the wealthy are really skating by these days. and so how do you collect more revenue from them? and all the various ideas about, well, you cap this deduction, and cap that deduction. there are not only political constituencies that will fight tooth and claw on every deducti deduction, there are some reasons, fairly good reasons why you would want to think twice. you know, are you going to go after home mortgage deduction at a time when the housing industry is trying to get its feet? are you going to go after the exemption on taxation for health insurance? i mean, that's the biggest one, actually. that's like $250 billion a year. but i don't think anybody wants to dive
. stuart: i think he had a round of golf with former president bill clinton just the other day. >> yeah. stuart: and bill clinton was-- you voted for him, twice. >> i sure did, he was a good president. stuart: do you think there's they chance that some of the moderation of blirn will rub off on the leftism of president obama? >> no, i think that clinton's leverage is gone totally. he supported obama totally in the election. without clinton i don't think that obama would have been reelect and that's what he did for him. and what clinton could do in the future, i don't know. i don't know why obama is so insistent on higher tax rates except it fits his rhetoric. stuart: at the end of the day, i think that the republicans will actually submit on the issue of higher tax rates. it may be just tax rates higher for those making half a million a year, i think they'll retreat a little bit. >> i think, too, what i'd like to see the republicans do, i'd like to see them pass a bill extending tax cuts below $250,000 and everyone agrees those should be put through and then put through another bill tha
to president clinton and i see this as a tax revolt and i see this as hipocracy. this is rich ceo's, rich board members saying, we don't want to pay the tax the rich tax next year, we're going to pay it to ourselves this year, doug, hipocracy. >> i see it as by businessmen basing an unpalatable and untenable fiscal condition in washington where both parties, particularly the democrats are failing to come up with reasonable tax reform. stuart: but you've got a smile on your base because now i'm right. jim singel, founder of costco pays himself $7 a share and borrows the money to do it he's a huge obama supporter. >> well, now that's a different kettle of fish, stuart. borrowing money that they don't have in their kitty to pay a dividend to reduce tax, that's tax manipulation. stuart: which a tax which he favors and went to the democratic convention and argued for. >> i can't efend him, his company or his actions, but i can tell you, stuart, this is a reason why our political system is letting down ordinary people because it does allow the wealthy empowered take advantage of a system because the
, that's something that will -- >> howard goes on and on. clinton tax rates on everybody. will it cause a problem? yeah, short recession, but we get defense cuts which republicans would never agree to otherwise, there are human service cut which is we won't like, but the least possible damage. and it's a serious down payment on the deficit. the wall street people ringing their hands are really full of it. i'm not sure what. but full of something because they're going to see a big drop on wall street but it will come roaring back because somebody has done something. so you have him and all their friends and the right and all their friends and the president who i don't think if he can ever get out of campaign mode. it's a full on campaign again. putting one party into -- >> you're right, the amt will hit more people in the middle class and raise their effective tax rate to a higher rate than they were today. and you won't -- >> you have obamacare 4% on everyone, too. >> if you lieu numerically, it doesn't make sense if one side says we're not going to race taxes on the middle class -- >>
can tell you, it's not a hard ask, it's a partnership. and actually, as much as bill clinton and newt gingrich loatheds each other at times, they worked together to deal with -- >> on impeachment. >> to deal with republicans like myself on balancing the budget for the first time in a generation, balancing it four years for the first time since the 1920s, paying down the national debt. and you know what? newt gingrich always had to fight us on his right flank, and he and bill clinton sat in the white house and strategized. >> i have a question. >> republican votes for that first clinton budget that set them on the path. >> joe, i've got -- >> hold on. come on, richard. you must have been sleeping or somewhere in britain in '95, '96, '97, '98 and '99 when we balanced the budget for the first time in a generation. >> joe, i have a question for you. let's say boehner goes back to his caucus and says, you know what? from the president's first proposal, i was able to shave off $600 billion in tax hikes. >> right. >> so i saved that. >> by the way, we're going to end up at, like, 1.2, aren't
the president and our leaders, republican and democrat, sit across the table the way they did with bill clinton, the way they did with ronald reagan, and the way you get things done in washington, rather than saying hey, would you stick with grover norquist or would you not or would you address entitlements or not. i believe it's vital that we address the entitlements, who are the elephant in the room, but that would be up to the people who would be sitting across the table from each other. we cannot go over this fiscal cliff, no matter what people on both ends of the political spectrum say. i believe that there was a popularity poll in case you missed it where now members of congress rank just above car salespeople and i'm a great admirer of car salespeople, you know. it's not even astonishing and it angers me beyond belief, even journalists rank higher than members of congress. >> former senate majority leader george mitchell knows what it's like to be in the middle of the debate. he joins me now. senator mitchell, you more or less have been in john boehner's shoes. you were a congressional l
-chair of the president's debt commission and the former chief of staff of president bill clinton, floated a similar plan last year. in embracing it, republicans are claiming bipartisan ship, and it's now up to the white house to respond. back to you. >> getting very interesting. thank you very much, rich edson. david: thanks, rich. well, washington doesn't seem to be get withing close to a debt deal, but one top investor believes they actually will get it cone and are get -- done and are getting close to it. bob doll joining us with his investing strategies. >> former lehman brothers' vice president larry mcconald who's now with new edge also believes a deal will be reached, but what will it be, and who ends up on the winning end? find out what he thinks next. ♪ david: while the president is tweeting his short answers about coming tax increases, wall street's holding its collective breath with the rest of the world for some kind of resolution to the fiscal stalemate in d.c. trillions of dollars hang in the balance not just in government revenue, but also in nonallocated cash. it's just been sitting on
. that is a given. i think that will happen. bill clinton tried to find a way to balance it out. he was going to cut a lot of investment rates. that, that profumo was enough to help trigger an economic boom. what you hand out in of a tax increase, the president could give back, that would favor the investment community. it could work for him. lori: grover norquist, tea party two-point oh. neil: it is interesting. it is hard to read whether there will be held back to pay for anyone who votes for any type of a tax increase. i think we have learned from this election, you know, back in the a very suicidal pact. i do not know if that threat is real. what is more real right now, the result we have to get a permit spending under control, has disappeared. when it came to spending, that is still -- by the way, the same people who are picking apart the tea party, john boehner is where he is now and the house enjoys the republican party it does now because of the tea party. i would not be so quick to dismiss all. connell: you still think we are all just playing around it we will get a deal done? neil: i would
boehner lashes out over his budget plan. >>> hillary clinton is the lead candidate for 2016, a new poll shows. she keeps saying no, no, no. but will she heed the call? >> yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. >>> new details on the murde murder/suicide involving kansas city chief jovan belcher. what the 911 calls reveal about the slaying of his girlfriend. >>> what you should absolutely stay away from. >>> packed show for you this morning. jeb henserling is joining us. american federation of teachers and our guest as well is randi weingarten. "starting point" begins right now. >>> morning. welcome, everybody. our "starting point" this morning, president obama says he will not bend in this fiscal cliff debate. americans face the prospect of severe tax hikes, spending cuts if republicans and democrats can't get together to work out some deal. congress breaks for the holidays in ten days. if they don't extend that, it will be ten days from then that we fall off the fiscal cliff. >> if we're going to be serious about reducing our deficit while still being able to invest in things like education and rese
, you got to be tougher. >> you know, i would go back to the clinton tax rates in a heart beat, but they'd have to give me the spinning rates as well e. they're not doing that and no one's ever put that on the table. what we've got in washington are republicans and democrats both trying to pivot to be the more reasonable party in front of the american people. the republicans are going to get blamed no matter what they do. that's political environment. they might as well embrace the fiscal cliff. >> you heard peter difazio saying earlier in the program, democrat, go off the cliff, there is no cliff. no problem. >> folks on both sides. look, there's not a clip there and they're going to play chicken and go off. >> and then you're road kill at the bottom. >> that's exactly right. most folks are saying since the economy's improving, congress, don't screw it up and you get some folks on the far left and far right, there's no cliff, don't worry about this. we're after the election, this isn't an id logical debating society. this is about getting something done. let's work on a short-term deal.
we could do is go over the fiscal cliff. we have the same tax rates that we have when bill clinton was president. significant cuts in defense and also significant human services can you tell us. >> katie, let me ask you, before you respond to what governor dean is saying. there is logic to what howard dean is saying. i don't happen to agree with it. but i know where he's coming from. katie, let me ask you this -- katie can't hear me. we'll wait for her to get back hooked in. howard, what about the notion that i'm posing tonight -- i've said this a few times -- republicans better be careful. they're not going down your road and the democrats aren't going down your road. you have middle class tax cuts for the democrats and it sometimes sounds to me as an old reagan conservative that the republicans better watch themselves because sometimes it sounds like they are kind of defending rich people. that's their whole mantra, just defending rich people. and i think that's not where they should be. >> i would agree. if i were politically advising the republicans, which i'm certainly not, i
. >>> welcome back, everybody, stern warnings. syria from secretary of state hillary clinton. she said that any move by the assad regime to use chemical weapons against rebels would be considered crossing a red line by the united states. it would prompt action by the u.s. one official told cnn that there had been quote worrying signs of activity in syria over the last few days. i want to get to our panel this morning talk a little bit about that. barbara starr is cnn's pentagon correspondent. w. bell, a comedian who's the host of totally biased, and u.s. congresswoman ann hayworth is with us as well. barbara, what are the worrying signs? >> what our sources are telling us, soledad, last couple of days there have been new intelligence that the syrians are now moving their chemical weapons around in a very different way. not just consolidating for security purposes, but potentially moving them in a way that indicates they might be getting ready to use them. what do we mean by that? likelihood is what they're doing is using some of the chemical material closer or to the artillery shell dis --- >>
. you go back to bill clinton's tax rates which we did pretty well under bill clinton, you cut some defense spending, which isn't going to get cut otherwise because the defense contractors are in practically every congressional district in the place. and you do make some human services cuts which i don't like but everybody's going to have to put something on the table here. >> steve rattner, i'm sure you would beg to differ with what howard dean had to say as far as the fiscal cliff goes. he says it's not a fiscal cliff, it's more like a fiscal slope. there are some people that occupy the left side of the american political spectrum that would agree with howard dean saying listen, it's really not that big of a deal as deficit hawks are making it out to be. you would disagree, i would guess. >> well, i think howard is disagreeing a little bit, too. i think howard is saying it's time for meaningful deficit reduction. howard's become a deficit hawk. i think howard and i would disagree probably on some of the elements of what constitutes -- >> no, but he's saying it's not a disaster if
clinton. monica crowley, fox news contributor. i it's the thing to do. you get a call. >> president obama has a pattern of inviting political opponents, business leaders to the white house for some sort of confab. what it kals end ends up being is a photo opportunity so he looks like he's extending himself to the opposition, he's bipartisan, and he is neither of those things. bill: would you accept that invite. >> i would accept in a heartbeat. bill: monica is saying nada on this. >> i would be more optimistic on this. we are groping for bi-partisanship. if governor romney has things to share and ways to bridge the fiscal cliff this is all good. bill: we went back to the vault to figure out what they are not going to talk about. we found this first of all, okay. i want you to listen to. roll it. >> i've been in business for 25 years. i have no idea what you're talking about. i had a friend who said you don't just pick the winners and losers, you pick the losers. bill: i've been in business 25 years. i've got no idea what you're talking about. >> actually those points may come up. bill: yo
more for us in washington. >> foremost is who will replace hillary clinton as secretary of state? the white house signaled that un ambassador susan rice will be the choice . this week, the president voiced ut most confidence in her. >> susan rice is extraordinary . couldn't be prouder of a job done. >> also this week another republican senator expressed major doubts about rice not only about the bengazi terrorist attack but because of the africa section during the terrorist attack in the embassy in kenya when they pled for better security. susan collins teled the message to the administration about the secretary of state opening. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent appointment and easily confirmed by the colleagues. >> there are other key cabinet picks. secretary of the defense will have to contend with a destabilized middle east and rising threats from asia when big defense cuts are anticipated. former republican chuck ha gel of nebraska and ashton carter and michelle florinoid . act being director michael more accident orell . homeland security advisor michael vickers a
aware of the seriousness of the president's position on this. >> secretary of state clinton is in brawls attending the nato foreign minister session. she emphasized that the patriot system being deployed to turkey are not meant to destabilize the already uneasy relationship with russia as the spokesman at home urged now to join the international community in helping to ease bashar al-assad. >>shepard: thank you from the state department. that is the reporting. now the context and perspective. now to the director of the program on arab politics at the washington institute for near east policy a "american bandstand" group of scholars whose mission is to advance america's interests overseas. how big a move is this movement of chemical weapons? what does it tell us in the big picture? >>guest: it is very significant. it highlights the desperation of assad regime, the fact he is mixing the recursors of sarin gas, that is a scare tactic for us to keep us out of it, and, also, warning the people of syria he could be prepared to use these if he is brought down. >>shepard: based on what the unite
the way we did when president clinton was president. >> mary is shaking her head and i am, too. i traveled enough in the far east to know you bargain appropriately with respect. you don't come in knowing that something's laughable. mary -- >> so wait. i don't travel in the far east. you think people should just give up on their principles and the things they campaigned for? >> no, but i think you do have to bargain from a position of respect. mary, is this something that was so disrespectful that you can't even counter, the republicans can't even counter bargain here? >> here's what -- i don't know why the republicans are so surprised. i myself was offended and felt disrespected yesterday because the working framework, the intellectual working framework, erskine from the bowles-simpson, from domenici-rivlin going all the way back was a basic framework of $3 of savings for $1 of revenues. we get it. it's the opening bid. but we thought the opening bid would at least be in the framework of this planet that we're dealing in. >> i will recommend that maybe raul felder get into this and start b
-blank, they want a it would two-step process for tax reform, raise the top 2% to the clinton levels now. and let next year be a time for negotiating rates for the future and maybe everybody could lower the rates for everyone during that time. >> dana, how much of this do you think is just public posturing and kind of bloviating on cable channels? it does seem like there's a lot of that going on. >> reporter: so much of that is public posturing and bloviating. but i think the difference between now and what we've seen in past high-stakes negotiations like this, you have the public posturing, the bloviating and the, okay, guys, let's roll up our sleeves and talk about what's really going on. by all accounts, that's not happening right now. just like you said, the fact you said it's news the president and speaker had their first phone conversation which got nowhere in a week is really amazing. and it speaks to the lack of the real conversations going on behind the scenes. i will say that, you know, back to what david and jessica were saying, david particularly, about the fact that -- the question a
a compromise that isn't necessarily clinton era tax rates, something in between. but it looks like the makings of a deal. with every change on the republican side, more and more likely to happen than not. >> all right. we'll see about that. we'll be watching. obviously, very, very important for the markets. thanks. see you later. >>> let's get to bertha coombs. one company with big moves after the bell. over to you. >> maria, amarin is falling after the bell. some had suspected them to solicit a bid to buy itself out. it has a drug that's a fish oil drug that's prescription. they say they're hiring a sales staff and they still expect to present more details to the fda in february 2013. some disappointment, clearly, there. maria. >> thanks so much, bertha. we'll keep watching that. >>> up next, the stock market and america. steve liesman up next with surprising new results from the exclusive cnbc survey. >>> and then as the lawsuits fly over hewlett-packard's autonomy mess, i'll talk with the ceo of deloitte and their role in looking over the books. ally bank. why they have a raise your rate cd
is what has to happen, all right? the president needs to take a page out of president bill clinton -- >> he's in philadelphia with the middle class behind him and nodding and saying, i've got a pen, i've got a pen. i've still got a pen, i've still got a pen. >> president obama owes president clinton a great deal for helping him get elected. number one, we need a meaningful citizen education engagement effort with the white house in formada, next year to build the case for a grand bargain. the official version of what i did and what my colleagues did over the last several months and we need congressional hearings that will set the stage for tax reforms, social security reform and the president needs to negotiate privately and have discussions with congressional leaders of both parties privately. those three things can get us to the promt promise land. and without all three of those, we're in trouble. >> but, david, that is exactly what was supposed to happen between july of 2011 and today. and guess what? none of it has happened. none of it. we're having the same conversation. >> yo
that and now it's not-- >> no, no, no, i do not believe that raising the marginal tax rates to the clinton rates for the wealthiest among us-- >> i knew you were going to say that, you're comparing a totally different economy. what we have now is 8% unemployment. very sluggish growth and a trillion dollar deficit every year. you propose to raise taxes in that environment and you're not going to get growth. >> don't you understand you need to off set-- if you're serious about debt reduction, i think you are, don't you understand you need revenue and spending cuts. stuart: and how do you get revenues. >> how. >> please, go ahead, go ahead. stuart: it's easy you lower tax rates and keep incentive to work harder. >> we've tried that. stuart: and you can't-- what. >> george bush tried that. look at the deficit we had. stuart: well, wait a minute you cannot rewrite economic history. after george bush lowered tax rates the return to the treasury, the money coming into the treasury went way up and the deficit, by the way, in 2007 was 167 billion dollars. >> so. stuart: president obama has got, 167
's an embarrassment to the obama administration? you had secretary clinton who warned abbas not to do this. >> the u.s. isn't going to break with israel. we both know that. right or wrong. the u.s. isn't going to break with israel, and so they were there to support them, and we expected that. at the same time there has to be a long, hard think about how to push this process forward. a two-state solution. >> all right. jim clancy, thank you. appreciate it. >>> we have breaking news. an explosion just outside rocking social security administration building. this is in casa grande, arizona. it's halfway between phoenix and tucson, arizona. you're looking at pictures. this is from our affiliate kpho. we are told that this blast was caused by a device that actually detonated at the rear of this building. that is according to the local police department. it happened around 8:15 in the morning. you're taking a look at some of the aerials here around this building. this is a building that actually houses many and several other downtown businesses. we understand that those businesses have been evacuated. now
the president or either from secretary clinton or tony blair is, you know, they talk about the if. what then? any possible scenarios, possible action, i'm not hearing concrete scenarios, are you? >> well, you're not, brooke. i think for a very good reason. they want to stop this before it gets to that. nobody wants to have to strike at syrian chemical weapons plants. if you think about it logically, it is a very tough target. you have to know exactly where it is. you have to strike that hard enough to virtually incinerate all the chemical or biological material there before it escapes into the atmosphere. if those chemical weapons started to go on the move, in artillery shells or bombs, could you chase them all down? and, of course, in syria, much of this material is located or co-located in neighborhoods and towns with civilian populations. so you're putting civilian populations at risk. i think that's why you're hearing the very tough language from washington to nato headquarters. everybody wants this stopped before it even happens, brooke. >> talking about baer last hour, former cia, he s
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